At the last meeting of the committee we tried to get a better sense of the trafficking, the smuggling of guns into this country.
I have to say, Deputy Commissioner, we didn't get much information from the RCMP, so maybe we'll get it from CBSA.
We're seeing in the numbers that are being reported a reduction in the number of seizures of weapons coming into Canada over the last three to five years. It hit a peak at this point and it has been going down. I have to say, living on the busiest border crossing in this country, that I do not have much faith in those figures as accurately reflecting what's going on. Everything that we're seeing in Ontario, in particular, in the inflow of guns is that the number of guns illegally coming into this country is in fact going up. I guess I would have expected a corresponding increase in the number of guns seized at the border.
I've made a couple of assumptions there. Would you tell me whether you agree with me on my assumptions, that the number of guns coming into this country illegally is in fact going up and the number that we're seizing is going down?