I can't give you specific illustrations--for example, here is this piece of information obtained under torture, used by CSIS in this way--but I can certainly indicate that you're right; we have not heard a clear repudiation of the use of torture by CSIS. We have instead heard indications that they wouldn't use it on its own, that they would certainly want to make sure that it was confirmed or corroborated by other information.
It's very worrying. I think we're all united in a commitment to ensuring that we do everything we can to eradicate torture around the world. One of the very crucial ways of doing so is to make sure that the torturer has no market for his or her produce, that any information a torturer does obtain from someone can go nowhere. No one wants it. No one will touch it.
As long as security and intelligence agencies continue to be willing to receive it, even if it's with caveats--they wouldn't really make use of it unless they were able to confirm or corroborate it through other sources--it validates torture. It suggests to the torturer that they should continue to do their work. We absolutely need an unequivocal repudiation of the use of information obtained under torture by any law enforcement and security agencies in Canada, in any context.