In your opinion, is this subcontracting torture? In Canada, it is illegal to torture detainees in order to obtain information. Is this a backhanded way to obtain information? Do you think that we are subcontracting torture, in fact? In a way, are these agencies not putting Canada's national security in jeopardy by using information obtained by torture, which, as we know, is unreliable? People being tortured will say everything the torturers want to hear; they will say anything.