As you know, this is a public committee, and this is being televised today, and you are representing CSIS. From the response you've just given in terms of this 14th recommendation, would you not agree with me that in essence, what you're doing is encouraging people, letting them know that if there is credible information that might somehow be useful in some circumstance that is gained through torture, you'll use it?
On March 31st, 2009. See this statement in context.