Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Gentlemen, listening to Mr. O'Brian, it seems that everything is all right and this was just a learning experience for us. Yet we have the reports before us of Justice Iacobucci, for example, determining that during the inquiry the CSIS officials repeatedly told that inquiry that they had no evidence that Syria used torture so they didn't consider that the confession that he made may be the product of torture. In fact, CSIS decided to corroborate the confession of Mr. Elmaati, which were extracted under torture, by sending more questions to be asked of him by his torturers.
The RCMP also had this confession as well. Your report that Mr. Ménard gave us today now says that the RCMP now determines whether countries have questionable human rights records by consulting with the annual reports of the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade. That seems to me to be as incredible as the statement that the RCMP didn't know that the Syrians engaged in torture. Are you saying that's the extent of your understanding of whether a country engages in torture, by looking at annual reports of the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade? Is that what you're suggesting to us, that that's your major source or only source?