With respect, Mr. Chair, what the agencies have done in response to what has happened includes whether or not they're treating it seriously enough to apologize to these individuals for what the agencies have done. So I believe it is a relevant question. We're asking them what they did to change their procedure so it doesn't happen again. Yes, that's very important, but what they are doing to repair the damage that has been done to these men and their families is also important.
So I'm asking them why they are now saying they're not prepared to apologize or try to repair the damage when in the case of Mr. Arar, the Commissioner of the RCMP came and said they apologized for what they have done and what they have caused. This committee made a recommendation after that, that the government ought to attempt to compensate Mr. Arar for what's happened. I don't know what's changed between now and then, and I respect what Mr. MacKenzie is saying, but at the same time we're trying to find out what these agencies and the government are prepared to do to repair the damage they've done.