Can I have a stab at that, Mr. Chairman?
First, let me apologize for breaking your sound system. It's why when I was defence minister they didn't allow me to push any buttons.
Mr. Ménard, thank you very much for that very important question.
Simply put, if we continue to play the game by the rules as they're written today, we will lose. Both the U.S. and we will lose, but we will lose more. We have to redefine the game. If we are simply arguing on a narrow basis about how we deal with the border as it's constituted today, you'll be constantly pushed back into a holding operation as the border gets thicker, more costly, and more difficult to cross. We need to engage the Americans on a much broader dialogue about how we provide for the security of North America in a whole range of areas: in pandemics, in military affairs, in anti-terrorism, in criminal activity, and so on. We need to redefine the game. It's just that simple. We change the rules or we lose.