About 5,000 access the programs, so it seems to me we have two problems. We have a capacity problem, which is about accessibility of the programs. It's still not big enough. And we have a motivation problem—some people aren't participating. The motivation problem could be legislated, as Mr. Sampson's report is recommending, or it could incentivized. There are two ways of doing this. Generally, every health professional I've ever talked to, every addictions person I've ever talked to, has said that legislating people to treatment doesn't work as well as incentivizing or marketing the programs.
Is it the understanding of Correctional Service Canada that it's best to incentivize?