I think some of the long-term results are going to take five to ten years, but what we're seeing, as you pointed out correctly, is some incremental gains on the inside, and some on the outside. So, for example, one of the problems we had before is that, specifically in our prairie region, which covers Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba, aboriginal offenders were more likely to be involved in violent incidents within the institutions. For those who are involved in the programs, in the Pathways units, we're seeing a decline in their involvement in violent activities and drug-related activities. So these are the kinds of increments we can build on.
As I said, we're only seeing decimal changes in terms of community successes, but that's a far cry from where we were five years ago. So in a very short period of time, we're starting to see the positive incremental changes, and we can build on those. We have a lot of work to do. As the minister pointed out earlier, many individuals who come into the system come in with a multitude of problems, so just to deal with substance abuse isn't necessarily going to deal with the family violence part, or other issues. We've got a lot of work to do, but we're starting to see some progress.