Sir, I'm going to interrupt you, because I have limited time. You had a chance to give your speech. I want to focus on certain things.
The problem, sir, is that what you're saying here is not matching the reality of what's happening in prisons. When I go to prisons, and I've been to eight of them in the last two months, I'm told by everybody--inmates, the professionals who work there--that there is not adequate diagnosis or assessment when people are entering prisons. There is not adequate counselling that's going on. In fact, just about every person I talked to said there's almost virtually a complete absence in our prison system of counselling. People want one-on-one mental health therapeutic counselling on a weekly, bi-weekly, or monthly basis, and they're not getting it.
I'm told there are 40% vacancies in British Columbia for counsellors, occupational therapists, and substance abuse counsellors. That tells me, sir, that despite all the talk and the speaking to people, whatever, on the ground, in our prisons, prisoners are not getting the mental health services delivered to them. What's your comment on that?