I'm going to tell you why I'm asking these questions.
It has been brought to my attention that these inmates sometimes stay in these transfer wings for a very long time, not necessarily for clinical reasons. Instead it's because they're not wanted in their initial penitentiaries or because the presence of certain inmates in transfer wings must be justified from a capacity standpoint.
I would also like to understand why inmates can sometimes stay in transfer wings for a year without being able to take any programs. I would like that to be explained to me, because if two heads have to talk to each other and it takes them a year to do that, something is very definitely wrong, I can tell you that. Oh, oh!