Now I'd like to hear you talk about Joliette. There was a lot of publicity when Joliette Institution was built. There were a number of articles on the subject, but I must say that, at the time, greater importance was attached to the architectural quality of the prison and to its living quarters. Joliette Institution was established some time ago, and I imagine programs have been established there.
Has this proven to be a positive experience for the women who have been there? And if it is a positive influence, can any lessons be drawn from it as well for the treatment of men?