Okay.
Mr. Moffat, I appreciated Mr. Kania's questioning with respect to the crown attorneys, but certainly it's been my observation over the years that crown attorneys and the police will collectively work together to find a solution without the court having to order it. My question to you would be, as a crown attorney, do you see the programs as being far more effective since people are going into them on a voluntary basis rather than having to be ordered by the courts?