Don't get me wrong; public safety is my first concern. We have to keep the public safe, so we incarcerate. I would put that over deterrence and punishment as the main reason for putting people in jail. It's for our safety. Are there a couple of things you have seen in your career that could mitigate this problem?
We were in the Kingston Penitentiary in the treatment centre, and the building did not physically lend itself to creating a healing environment. However, we were in other buildings that did. The physical architecture of buildings can actually promote healing. In your experience, is there anything else that you would want us to hear about?