I appreciate your clarification on that point.
I too want to suggest to you, sir, that as a victims' advocate, I speak with families often. I can tell you that Paul Cherewick's family is very concerned about the sentence. Paul Cherewick was murdered. His family is concerned about the accused's sentence. Of course, he was out on bail. They knew he was a fairly dangerous person. Their son was murdered as a result of an interaction with him. They were worried another offence would occur, and, sure enough, he almost killed another person while waiting for bail.
I take slight issue with your position. Again, I've done this for a very long time. I believe that at times, case by case, victims care about the sentence, how long the sentence is, when the sentence is imposed, and when the person is to be removed from society, because they care about public safety. It's why I believe we have so much support from victims when we talk about making public safety a priority, for example, when providing pardons.
In that case, do you not agree that that statement is important and that victims get some kind of satisfaction out of that statement? Can you give me that?