First, let me say this has been the most fun I've had in the three years I've been here.
Second, really, I sat with Marjean Fichtenberg in Prince George, British Columbia, almost exactly 15 years ago today, and there was a coroner's inquest because her son was murdered by a federal parolee. That jury recommended, because of the treatment she received, an office of this kind—I don't know if they called it an ombudsman—and I worked with Minister McKay. Other members of Parliament came before the justice committee when they did their CCRA report and talked about the need, and they actually recommended that kind of thing.
So it was probably at least ten years, twelve years.