Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I was trying to raise a point of order, because as Mr. Holland indicated very clearly, things that are done in camera, or the allegations that something is done in camera, are not permitted when a committee is then in public. So you'll have to advise us as to how to deal with that later. I don't know if an apology is expected. Nevertheless, let's move on.
I do want to apologize because I've been corrected. Ms. Hoeppner has indicated that the list that went to the clerk had that extra name on it, but the list we saw didn't have it.
I want to get back to the number of witnesses Mr. Holland has put forward to fill the entire agenda and add an additional day. Thirty-three witnesses were mentioned by Mr. Holland. Of those, two--Mr. Newman and Mr. Bernardo--were on the Conservative list of witnesses. Our list contained 57 people who have information to offer, who have the right to be heard. It is shocking and frankly very disappointing to see Mr. Ignatieff's members once again try to hijack an agenda and try to shut down democracy. Frankly, I'm appalled.
Canadians have asked us to debate this. There are two sides to this issue. It is a divided issue. We have people from the policing world who are divided. We have people from the victims' world who are divided. This requires a wholesome debate, and I believe we owe this to Canadians. I've received thousands of letters on this, as have other members of this committee. They are seized with this issue across our country. They deserve to hear what information is available from both sides.
I would implore the Liberals, please do not do this. Please do not put democracy in this kind of state. Canada is the most wonderful country in this world, and it's because we have a system that works. It's because we allow people to provide insight on issues like this, that Canadians are seized with.
This very bill can decide some extremely important issues, and we cannot let partisanship and we cannot let Mr. Ignatieff hijack this and take away the rights of Canadians. Please, I implore them to remove this motion from the table. Please, let's get back to discussing the witnesses fairly, 50-50. Let's hear both sides. There's a pro and a con, so let's hear them both.