Okay. Let me move on to the next question. I would have thought that with all of the discussion around the table today, perhaps you would have some knowledge on the comparisons.
The one you brought up, actually, was the APEC report.
The APEC report, which I will quote from, recommended that:
The RCMP must instill in its officers, by whatever educational or other means available, that they are to brook no intrusion or interference from government officials with respect to the provision of security services.
Now, this is in direct contradiction to what Mr. Kania was asserting, that somewhere up the ladder the politicians had influence in terms of directing the police. We are separate from the police, as politicians, and so should we be, in our opinion, because there are civilian organizations that oversee the police. His assertion was that it comes back to some minister, some bureaucratic person; it comes back perhaps to the Prime Minister who is somehow directing all of this, which is absolutely false.
In your opinion, does this recommendation in the APEC report further civil liberties?