Quickly, on point number one, in terms of a public safety analysis, I'd like to point out that we're talking about persons being taken, for example, from the United States, a foreign jurisdiction, brought back to Canada, and put back in jail. They are not taken from a jail and released into the general population. So when it comes to the public safety issue, frankly, I have a difficult time understanding that.
Second, Mr. Conroy, were you involved in this Getkate case?