Thank you.
My other comment would be with respect to segregation.
I know there are lots of people out there who don't work in the institutions who have opinions about what we should do with isolation or segregation, or whatever it might be called. We certainly went to two other countries, Norway and Great Britain, and in both cases we heard that they are doing better than us. I rather doubt that's true. When we went there and started to dig below the surface, we found that they use similar facilities to what we use, and I believe for many of the same reasons.
Certainly I know that in institutions we saw in Canada we have some people who wish to remain segregated for their own safety. I think when we were in Kingston there were several. If some of those folks were out in the general population, I don't know how we would protect them, and they obviously feel the same way. I saw just recently where an inmate in an institution is now suing because of not being protected.
Do you have any sense of where we would go in terms of turning some people into the general population, who for their own safety don't want to be there?