I appreciate your honesty.
Ultimately, you're saying that you can't confirm a zero risk for us. The risk is always there. Consequently, you'll understand the concern of people who want to resort to prevention. So much the better if measures are taken to avoid a disaster, but are we going to wait for a disaster to occur in order to act? I frankly admit to you that, in my opinion, that isn't being done at your level. You aren't the ones who issue a directive concerning the CCC. That will be done at a higher level, and I respect that.
So I'm going to move on to another point, with your permission, Mr. Chairman.
We visited the SHU. I found the place very interesting and also very secure. And that's a very good thing. I don't doubt that state of affairs. However, we asked to see the segregation area, but that wasn't possible because an incident was in progress. One question troubles me. In a place as secure as that, inmates are alone and virtually never see each other. I was told they spend approximately 23 hours a day in their cells. When they take programs or courses, they are behind a bullet-proof window. So they have no contact with anyone, perhaps apart from the guards who bring them in and take them out. There's even a wall in the middle, between the cells, which prevents them from seeing each other.
Why are they confined in segregation when they are already so isolated? I didn't really understand. The SHU is already a form of segregation in itself.