I will go back to some of the questions I asked the minister in terms of statistics and empirical evidence, because we touched upon that and the minister mentioned rationalization for offenders with multiple convictions, and that that was a problem. I'd like to know if there is any empirical evidence that could be provided or has been considered in terms of making that decision.
As well, as a general concept, there's been movement from the three years to five years on summary convictions and five years to ten years on indictable convictions. Again, the same question, was it a policy decision because they just didn't like it, or was there actually some empirical evidence showing that there was a problem that needed to be solved and that's why the changes have been made?