This concern has also come to me from the folks at the National Pardon Centre. They foresee that this situation could happen. So I guess the fact that they say it's probable and you say it's unlikely still leaves the door open to it being a possibility. That's very concerning. I don't think we want—and I'm not hearing from anything in your speech that you're seeking—to catch people I've just described in that kind of scenario. I'm worried about that door being open.
The second point I want to comment on deals with schedule 1 offences. Somebody convicted under a schedule 1 offence will never be eligible for a pardon. There's not even 10 years; they're right out. Some of the things included in here are voyeurism, making obscene phone calls, mailing obscene materials, and indecent acts. It could be argued that a university student streaking during frosh week—again, something they shouldn't be doing--isn't necessarily an act from which you should never be allowed to recover. You'd never be allowed to get your record cleared. So I'm concerned about that. Maybe you could speak to that concern.
The other concern is on the three strikes rule. Going back to my earlier point about indictable offences, take the example of a young person 18 or 19 years old--I use them as an example because it's often most tragic and life-destroying when they can't get a chance to clear their name--who commits three offences in one night. They're charged with three separate things, even though it happened in one night. Suddenly they'll never be eligible for a pardon, even though what had happened transpired in one evening--one mistake. I don't think we want to catch up folks in that situation either.
Perhaps you can comment on those two points.