Well, I'll tell you what we're going to do. We have this minister. Until then, at the break, we'll discuss this, and then we'll either go to that committee business or we'll go to the minister.
The problem is we have asked Ms. Campbell and the department to stay for that second hour. So they are here in regard to that. That's what they were invited to do and that's why we have them.
If you need more than 15 minutes, we'll maybe discuss that at the five o'clock break. But otherwise we usually put committee business to the end of the day.
All right. Minister Toews, we look forward to your comments and we will--