Thank you, Mr. Chair.
It's very interesting being here today. I was just going through listening, and Mr. Fraser said something very interesting, in that he works for a very results-oriented company and he really wants to see results. I know I read this before, and it's nice to hear it again. There's a 96% success rate after a pardon. Those are pretty darn good results.
I'm looking at this, and I'm just trying to make some heads or tails of it. I don't normally sit on this committee. I'm listening to the bill, and when somebody commits a crime, there's a mixture there. There's some retribution and some penance. You have to be punished a certain amount, but to me the penal system should be more about rehabilitation. How can we avoid having this person doing that crime again? I don't see that here. It seems to set up barriers.
We hear about how the victims are not listened to on the other side. Mr. Hutton, maybe you could give us your comments. What does this bill actually do for victims to prevent them from being victimized again?