As I was saying, I saw nothing wrong with Mr. James getting a pardon if he had in fact met the criteria, had not committed any new offences and was living a crime-free life.
I think it's important to recognize the size of this carrot. Barrett talked about it as a carrot. For many of us, we would not break the law because we're afraid of being arrested and there's a lot of shame; we're also afraid of going to prison. But if you've already been arrested, if you've already gone to prison, then what's left in terms of the motivation to live a crime-free life in future? Well, what that leaves is a pardon. I would hate to see that taken away from anyone, and that does mean, obviously, that we have to apply rules to everyone and not an individual. What I would want for my clients, obviously, I would want for him too.