Mr. John Kirton at the Public Safety and National Security Committee

I have never seen it before in any other country, and I've never seen it before in Canada.

For those close to this particular, specialized form of research, the operational wisdom of those producing the summits is that you simply never identify in advance what the costs are, partly for the good reason that you actually never know until all the bills are in, and then, when all the bills are in, which can take a rather long time--