I say it exists and it's a problem, but to the extent the problem is real, I think it's greatly exaggerated for a whole range of reasons. It does exist as a threat and it's real, but I think the damage we're doing to ourselves since 2001 is far greater than the cumulative damage done to us.
I'll give you the obvious example that nobody, to my knowledge, has died in Canada from an act of terrorism since 2001, but many people have died from biker violence, for example, during the same period. Why aren't these powers being applied there? I'm suggesting that this kind of investigative hearing will eventually be applied in these areas, when it's politically convenient in the future.