Okay. That's something we'll deal with by way of a vote.
In terms of your presentation, you indicate:
The experience and skills obtained from working on the farms has been valuable, however, the decision to close the remaining farms was based on the fact that offenders were not gaining the maximum employability skills through agriculture.
During your oral remarks you focused on agriculture, yet we know the offenders get skills in terms of milk production, machine operation, training in mechanics, production of well-maintained milking cattle from birth, welding--there's so much. You'll agree with me they obtain so many other skills. They may not be to full completion. They may not be certified to be welders, but they do obtain other skills through this program, not just in terms of agriculture. Correct?