One of the things I've heard time and time again with this program is the fact that, because it's a voluntary program, because these inmates are going in at 4:30 or 5 o'clock in the morning and working a full day, one of the skills they learn that is critical—is it not?—to employability is the value of a good day's work, understanding the motivation of getting up in the morning and doing a good job, the pride that comes with doing a good job. Are those skills not critical skills in whatever job you're going to pursue afterwards?
I have a general arts degree. I took political science and history. I can apply almost none of it directly to what I do in my everyday job. But the point is about giving base skills. Don't you find those skills critical to somebody's employability once they get out of prison?
Secondly, when you said at the beginning that the mandate is rehabilitation, I don't recall you saying that the principal mandate is jobs skills. I admit it's important, absolutely, but why all the emphasis on job skills when we know they do get this base and we know it's so effective at rehabilitation?