As far as hearing from Ms. Campbell goes, that may be not so much a point on the admissibility of the point of order. Certainly, before we vote on whether it should carry, you may ask for Ms. Campbell and I would go for that.
But we're dealing with Mr. MacKenzie's point. Is there anyone else on the speakers list?
Mr. Kania, do you want to speak on the point of order or on the amendment?