The reason I ask this next question is that about three years ago, when Mr. Elliott came into that position, the RCMP was in a difficult place. There were series of recommendations, including Brown's report, with very specific recommendations. We obviously had Justice O'Connor's recommendations, supported by Iacobucci. We had Paul Kennedy's comments and recommendations. Some of them happened either then or during his tenure and yet they didn't go anywhere.
So I guess the question is, what was the next process? When you're feeling that frustration, do you have comments and exit interviews?
Mr. Souccar, you were interviewed. Did you go somewhere next to try to address this? How did you deal with it after these things continued to escalate and change was not happening within the force?