Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I'd like to thank the guests for appearing here this morning before our committee and addressing this serious legislation.
One thing that caught my eye or caught my ear in Mr. Mia's testimony was that he said that laws shouldn't be put in place or laws shouldn't be made on the basis of fear. I'm probably paraphrasing a little bit. Yet some of the testimony we've heard today from Madame Des Rosiers and Mr. Mia are presenting fear. They're slamming the RCMP. They're slamming CSIS. They're bringing their activities into question. They're talking about setting precedent in Canada that will set a precedent for international law.
In my mind, they're as much talking about fear as anything, and slightly twisting the facts. I think it's unfortunate, because as I always say, it's not easy being a police officer. It's tough work. The RCMP and CSIS come to work every single day and they do a good job and they try hard. We see them every day on the Hill here, and they do a darned good job.
My point and my question to Mr. Vernon is on the fact of investigative hearings. Other countries have investigative hearings. This isn't just a new concept for Canada. England, Australia, and the United States have investigative hearings. So my question is, and for the people at home who are watching, if a person refuses to answer a question, they have the ability under investigative hearings, correct?