I think you're correct in your assessment. We're not saying CSIS and the RCMP aren't needed. They're needed to do certain things, as Ms. Cheung has pointed out. CSIS has to protect Canada from threats to Canada. Yes, that is their role.
But CSIS actually arose from a wrongdoing of the RCMP. The McDonald commission gave rise to CSIS. The Emergencies Act came out of the misuse of the War Measures Act, because we wanted to control, when we needed to do things to protect Canada in extreme cases.... We have rule-of-law-based mechanisms to do that.
The problem I have with this type of legislation and security certificates and the others is that there's not a lot of oversight. The Supreme Court struck down security certificates because there wasn't that oversight. What happens is the abuse of these powers. My cart-before-the-horse argument is essentially this: CSIS and the RCMP have major problems; they need to go down to the basement and have a little bit of a think and bring in a facilitator and work things out, before they come out and we give them more powers.
Justice Mosley, in the Almrei decision—