Thank you, Mr. Chair.
And thank you to all the witnesses for your attendance here this evening. I know it's been a long night.
Mr. Sapers, in your presentation you indicated--and I'm reading from the written notes, page 4--“It is also important to say that release on APR at 1/6 is not automatic.” In fact, you underscored “not”. My friend Mr. Ménard, in one of his questions, referred to it as automatic or quasi-automatic when it comes to white-collar criminals. I think that's an important distinction. As I understand it—and please correct me if I'm wrong—with respect to non-violent offenders, the parole board has no discretion not to release at one-sixth, and therefore it is automatic for white-collar criminals at one-sixth.
I see Mr. Fineberg is shaking his head “no”, and I may come back to him, but I want Mr. Sapers to answer first.