I'm going to come to Madam Pate in just a moment on this question. But before I go there, one of the concerns I have with the ballooning and expanding prison population is that it gives less resources to go after the very types of people these victims are concerned about, the larger-scale, more serious offenders. The system becomes diluted.
In fact what we found through questions on the order paper--and I'm looking for you to confirm this--is that as the population is expanding, the number of dollars available for program and services to actually make people better is either staying the same or is diminishing. So in real terms, the amount of money available for rehabilitation to make people better has dwindled relative to the number of inmates.
Can you confirm that is a concern you share? What is the trajectory of that?