Madam Pate, I will come to you for a second, first on the question of whether Parliament should vote with a blindfold on. Do you think it's appropriate that Parliament vote for things when they have no idea how much they cost?
Second is on the question that I asked about diminishing services. With larger and larger populations, more and more first-time non-violent offenders spending longer periods of time...having reduced services, for somebody who is on the front lines of dealing with rehabilitation, what do you think that impact is going to have? As well, can you expand on your comments about how this bill is going to disproportionately affect women?