Sir, in terms of those costs, there are actually three sources you can use to verify. The first source would be the Deloitte and Touche study, which was the annex to the Sampson panel report that also identifies these costs. The second source we double-checked was the Don facility in Toronto, the new 1,600-bed centre that was built. So we do have publicly available data in terms of the value-for-money costing for that particular project. Third, we also looked at Corrections B.C.'s new projects in terms of project expansion for the Surrey facility, I believe it was. So we do have three different sources for verification of those numbers.
On February 17th, 2011. See this statement in context.