Well, I think it is very important, because I believe white-collar criminals are deterred, to a very great extent, by heavy sentences. Many of these individuals are well educated and sophisticated, and they play the odds on this. And if the odds are that you're going to get a year or two in prison for stealing $100 million, if you could get away with a good chunk of that, isn't it worth playing the odds?
In that respect, you have to be very clear. We have to understand that has a very big deterrent effect in the context of white-collar crime.
I appreciate the support the Bloc has given us on C-59. I think they see exactly the nature of what white-collar crime is.