Evidence of meeting #57 for Public Safety and National Security in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

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MPs speaking

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Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Roger Préfontaine
Douglas Breithaupt  Director and General Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice
Lyne Casavant  Committee Researcher

9:55 a.m.

Liberal

Mark Holland Liberal Ajax—Pickering, ON

No--

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

The third one is still there.

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Liberal

Mark Holland Liberal Ajax—Pickering, ON

The fourth is still relevant. It's housekeeping to bring the bill in line in other sections with the amendments that were just passed. It's simply housekeeping, but there's a.... It's a fourth one.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

You may not have it. This one here, I didn't have.

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Liberal

Mark Holland Liberal Ajax—Pickering, ON

I can speak to it, Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Go ahead.

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Liberal

Mark Holland Liberal Ajax—Pickering, ON

I don't know if committee wants it to be read, but essentially this is a housekeeping motion that would bring the bill in line with the amendments just passed. There are other portions of the bill that would have to be amended to reflect the changes that were just adopted in amendment. The wording in this new amendment would also have to reflect the subamendment that was passed and adopted as well.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

All right.

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Liberal

Mark Holland Liberal Ajax—Pickering, ON

I am proposing, if I could, Mr. Chair, that the wording—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

You'll have to move your own amendment.

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Liberal

Mark Holland Liberal Ajax—Pickering, ON

I'll move my own amendment, but I'll move it with the wording to be amended to reflect the motion that was just adopted.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Okay.

Are you going to give us that wording or not?

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Liberal

Mark Holland Liberal Ajax—Pickering, ON

If you'd like, Mr. Chair, the wording in total is: that Bill C-17, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing lines 12 through 18 on page 9 with the following: “(1.2) The committee referred to in subsection (1.1) shall, within a year after a review is undertaken under that subsection or within any further time that may be authorized by the Senate and the House of Commons”--

Is that the right one?

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A voice

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Liberal

Mark Holland Liberal Ajax—Pickering, ON

--“be submitted their report on the review to Parliament, including its”.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Or a subcommittee, or a joint committee—

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Liberal

Mark Holland Liberal Ajax—Pickering, ON

Or a joint committee.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

All right. So right after the words “by the Senate and the House of Commons or a joint committee of both Houses of Parliament”, that's where that would be.

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Liberal

Alexandra Mendes Liberal Brossard—La Prairie, QC

The French version needs a lot of tweaking. It doesn't make much sense.

In its current form, it is not at all clear. I do not see how it could be understood. So it needs some work.

9:55 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

We are looking at the French text right now.

10 a.m.

Liberal

Alexandra Mendes Liberal Brossard—La Prairie, QC

If we agree that it could be undertaken by a joint committee, we need to replace “chacun des comités visés au paragraphe” with “le ou les comités visés au paragraphe”.

10 a.m.

Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

Could you explain it to me? I don't understand.

10 a.m.

Liberal

Alexandra Mendes Liberal Brossard—La Prairie, QC

It needs to be consistent with the previous amendment. It talks about committees of the House of Commons and the Senate. We replaced “chacun des comités” with “le ou les comités”.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Go ahead.

10 a.m.

Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

What is the purpose of that amendment?