As I was saying, when the offenders are under pressure from gangs or from bigger, stronger offenders to carry drugs in the institution or to hold them in their cells or whatever, it's very intimidating. Some of them get beaten up. They end up in segregation. They don't want to come out of their cells, because if they come out of their cells they're going to be pressured into taking part in these activities they don't want to be part of.
If a guy is there and he wants to participate in programs, but he's under pressure from the gangs or the bigger, stronger offenders, he either doesn't participate in the programs, or when he does participate, he's preoccupied with who's going to approach him when he leaves the building and goes out into the yard. It makes it very difficult to take part in the treatment programs, because he's so preoccupied with these other things.