You would have an environment that's conducive to delivering treatment. That's what I was talking about.
Right now at the treatment centre in Kingston, if we're trying to deliver a program, we don't have any place on the living units where we can deliver that program. We have to take people off the living units into another area to deliver the program. As soon as you have to do that, there are costs for security and costs for other space. You have limited security officers, and you're drawing a security officer from one place to another place to supervise the program. He's only there for a limited time, so you're limiting the amount of time when you have access to the offenders for treatment. When you're taking an officer from one place to another, whatever was going on in the place he was coming from is limited, so it has impacts on the whole institution when you don't have spaces on the unit where you can deliver the programs.