Thank you very much.
On that point, it was interesting that in our first comment, when we listened to a professor from Glasgow via teleconference, he said that some were not as effective as others, but he really recommended the Swedish example. We haven't done a comparison of Sweden's to others. I know that some on this committee would like to go a little more in depth into the Swedish one—perhaps so that the committee could travel, but I don't think that's happening in these tougher times here on the Hill.
I want to thank you for coming and for giving us your perspective and your expertise on this. You've been involved in jurisdictions in the United States, Mr. Gendreau, where this is used more.
We also appreciate the work of the John Howard Society and their experience with programming, offenders, and the rehabilitation of some of those offenders.
Thank you for being here.
I see the time at 5:30. We will adjourn. Have a good evening.