The reason I ask this is that if it's going to be a lower number.... I can see the application towards some of your conditions, although you're the expert and I am not, so we'd have to acquiesce to your best judgment.... But if I may be so bold as to suggest this, should you be looking at this from a cost-effective perspective? Might I also be so bold as to suggest that you perhaps would want to work in conjunction with Corrections and pool your resources?
In other words, you could have a joint contract to reduce costs, etc., because the government is just one big operation, and if we operate in silos, sometimes it's more expensive; however, when we have similarities.... That's just a suggestion.
Another suggestion would be this. On the defence committee, we just recently—as a matter of fact, on Monday—took a tour of the defence research facility in Downsview. They have some world-class scientists there who know what they're doing and are able, as Mr. Head previously witnessed, to do things.
These are just suggestions. Please, I'm not telling you how to do your jobs: these are just suggestions from looking at things. To the average Canadian, 44,000 people, and we don't know where they are....
In your experience—because I'm sure both of you have been with CBSA for some time—would some of these people be collecting provincial benefits or those types of things? Also, do you have formalized contacts with provincial agencies, or even with municipal agencies, because in the province of Ontario, municipalities handle social services, that would enable you to ferret out who might be one or more or many of these 44,000 people? I guess the basic question is this: how vigorously do you try to track these people?