Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you, Dr. Grant, for your attendance here today and for your testimony.
I'm quite intrigued by the statement on page 3 of your opening comments, in which you indicate—and I agree with you—that EM is not intended to be a mechanism for reducing recidivism.
You also indicated, I think in response to one of the questions from Ms. Hoeppner, that the research is clear that EM is not successful in reducing recidivism. Those are slightly different concepts. One is the intent of doing something, and the other is the conclusion.
I take it that both of those statements are true. The intent is not to reduce recidivism, and in fact it does not reduce recidivism.