On our second panel this afternoon, we are hearing testimony, hopefully, from Stephen Fineberg, the vice-president of the Canadian Prison Law Association. Mr. Fineberg has been held up momentarily. We're hoping that he will arrive soon.
I'll give you a little bit of information on Mr. Fineberg. He's from the Canadian Prison Law Association, an organization of lawyers who work on behalf of prisoners and who seek to protect and promote the constitutional rights, interests, and privileges of prisoners by advocating on their behalf.
As well we have, no stranger to our committee, Ms. Pate. Kim Pate is the executive director of the Elizabeth Fry Society of Canada. She has taken time out to come before our committee on a number of issues dealing with prisoners and prisons and prisoners' rights and many different issues.
We welcome you back. If it is all right, we will begin with your testimony, and hopefully Mr. Fineberg will make his way through security and will get here.
Welcome.