I think I can say the same thing. I personally appeared before the Senate committee in 2007, when the sunset clause was being debated. We, all the members, agreed that those two clauses, the investigative hearings and the recognizance with conditions, were very valid clauses for fighting terrorism.
Let me go a step further. Measure the rights of a terrorist, or somebody who is planning something who has been taken away to answer some questions, or somebody who is detained for a certain number of days after the Attorney General approves and a justice so orders, against the rights of a four-and-a-half-year-old girl who lost her mother in Air India 182. She was four and a half. You will be happy to know—I cry when I see her—that she is a medical doctor doing her residency in England, at Oxford. Or measure it against the rights of an 84-year-old lady in India, who couldn't even cry after having lost her son, her daughter-in-law, and three grandsons.
You have to balance the rights. That's what we meant when we said that deterrence must be present, both ways—to deter terrorism and to deter any abuse or misuse of the provisions. And they are there. The Attorney General's approval and the justice is there, and the evidence will not be used against the person who is giving it.
We have to balance these things, and I think the bill, as it is, is quite balanced, in our opinion.