Colleagues, we will resume the session.
We do not have hookup yet, but we expect to have hookup shortly by teleconference with Mr. Grabowsky from the Union of Canadian Correctional Officers. We will bring him in as we progress and as the hookup comes in, of course, but certainly we're not going to delay any further. We have the witnesses here before us.
In our second hour, we have Mr. McCormack, president of the Toronto Police Association.