I think the targets would vary by the kind of program, and indeed they vary a little bit by community. We try to design these things to take advantage of the local community assets. We definitely do look at contacts with the law and either the avoidance of, or the reduction of, contact with the law. But it does matter to us in terms of looking at their participation in the program. Do they stay in the program? Do they attend every session? Are they meeting the objectives of the program?
Some of our programs are actually school-based. They actually have curriculum that they need to work through, so it is a question of being able to measure that they're actually achieving the curriculum that's defined for them in the school. It varies by project and the type of project. We have lots of studies. If the committee wants to look at that, we can provide you with some of the evaluations that we've done of the different programs that would give you that evidence.