Thank you very much.
Through you, Mr. Chair, thank you to the witnesses for appearing today.
I think you'll see by the type of questioning a sort of ideological divide. Some people are skeptical that anyone other than government can be successful in any kind of crime prevention. Skepticism is not a bad thing, by the way. I'm not saying it's bad. I simply say that when we deal with crime prevention, we don't want to keep doing things the same way in the expectation of better results.
We may be getting some good results, but would I be correct, Ms. Harty, in saying that the thrust of our social finance ideas and our beginning to explore them and institute them is, indeed, that? We're simply going to test it out. We're going to make sure that we do things right, based on the experience of other countries, those that worked well, those that didn't, and we'll try to use tools to ensure that we get the best possible outcome, knowing that there are no guarantees. Would that be correct?